McGrath is there a verbal oops in your post of 0750?

I disagree with your view at 0146. In my experience in the UK most opponents of abortion want pregnancy and the raising of a child to punish those who do not sign up to sexual repression. The embryo is just a pawn in the game. Chattel breeder status is a key plank of keeping women subservient. And those who want that usually like capital punishment to keep the disadvantaged subservient, and war to punish foreigners who do not know their place.