No I don't think we need to call in Mr Ed. we just need to agree that definitions....well, given their history in folkmusic - they're a bit suspect.

Martin Carthy said in his latest DVD - the idea that English folk clubs should be about nothing but English folk music nearly killed the whole movement off at onetime. and on this point (if no other)I agree with him 100%.

I just hope none of this pedanry isn't there in these new University courses in England. Otherwise we will have armies of opinionated twits - none of whom will have spent long enough figuring out and obsessing about guitars, melodeons or whatever. You really do have to put the time in. And my view is that you learn not to be proud - you learn to steal from anyone who's got something to teach you.