I called my friend, Joe, who sings and collects Ladino songs. He says he knows both of the songs you list and can help you with translation. His email address is: ladinoelias@home.com Respond quickly because he is going to a special sing tomorrow where there will be another Ladino singer (a charming woman, gentle, with a warm voice). If Joe doesn't know what you need, he can then refer the question to her. This is one great forum. I enjoy going into it sometimes every day!.