I think he probably picked it up from addictinggames.com, or a linked site from them, which he had been told to stay off of because it has caused problems in the past. I'm about to block the website. I just got the computer back 6 weeks ago after spending $120 to clean it up from his poor judgement. He has been told the next time, it comes out of his pocket.

One of the websites talking about MS Antivirus and the zlob trojan say they are likely to be picked up from bogus video codex. I'm not sure what that means. He is on YouTube and Facebook alot, as well an Airsoft blog, and the American Parkour website. Both have links to videos, but when I have watched them with him, the video links are aways to YouTube.

I also realized that the regularly scheduled symantec and spybot scans were scheduled for times the computer is nearly always turned off. I know I can not count on him to remember to run manual scans. I ran a Symantec scan overnight. It has disabled MS Antivirus so it is not constantly popping up, but there is still an icon for it. It also identified another trojan, but is reporting it can not complete the remediation. I went ahead and purchased Malwarebytes Anti-malware and the browser unexpectedly quit before I could follow the download instructions. The confirmation e-mail says to go to their site and click on the protection tab to register and download the program, only, there is no protection tab that I can find, so I am waiting for a reply from tech support. I can not get the free version to download, so there is still something pretty screwy going on.

I hate computers 'cuz I don't have the kind of mind that groks the problem-solving process with them, and I can not learn the language of tech talk well enough to understand what the problem-solving sites and blogs are saying.