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Thread #114421 Message #2442765
Posted By: Little Hawk
17-Sep-08 - 01:20 AM
Thread Name: BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist
Subject: RE: BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist
Ha! Thanks, Genie. Spaw and I love to pretend we're angry at each other and slag each other off in that fashion now and then. I, of course, am not deserving of such cavalier treatment because I adore Winona Ryder and I love dachshunds. Spaw, on the other hand, praises Cheech Wizard and keeps Weimaraners. This, needless to say, means he deserves the absolute worst, because he is beyond the pale. ;-)
'Of course the people don't want war - that is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." ------- Hermann Goering (Adolf Hitler's deputy) at the Nuremberg trials, 1946, quoted in "Nuremberg Diary" by G M Gilbert]]
That is indeed the Goering quote that you have there, all right, Genie, and boy is it EVER spot on. Truer words have seldom been spoken regarding how governments bamboozle and control their public when they wish to promote a war of aggression. I would have no trouble attributing the statement to Goering, and it is a statement that all people should be made well aware of...it would help them protect themselves against their own regimes that might lead them into lawless and needless wars of aggression....as the Bush regime has done.
Goering served a very wrongful cause in Nazi Germany. That doesn't mean that there is nothing he said in his Nuremberg testimony from which we cannot perhaps learn something useful.
Most people DO say something useful sometime during their lives...and they also usually say some things that are stupid, wrongful, and destructive sometime during their lives. You just have to look what they said...not in terms of who they are...but in terms of exactly what they said, period, and in what context.
In other words, look beyond your habitual political correctness habits that you are so defensive about and consider each statement strictly on its own merits. That statement of Goering's is dead accurate and it has plenty of merit, regardless of the source.
Goering sometimes spoke the truth. He did on that occasion, because he had nothing left to lose. He knew he was going to die soon. Everyone sometimes speaks the truth, and the truth WILL set you free...if you bother to listen to it and then act on what you heard.