not dinosaurs teribus. just people who lived in a different part of the country to you and saw and experienced the ravages of Thatchernomics.

You forget the economy is there to serve us - its not just some abstract beast. Under Thatcher it served many people much worse than under Labour.

I know I won't change your and Ake's views about anything. i just wish you were less dismissive of each other.

Throughout the Thatcher years I used to hear from my relatives living in Tory constituencies ....recession, what recession?

Believe you me, it happened - and families, individuals and communities felt the cold in those years.

Not to mention all the bloody silly money she and Tebbit wasted in Northern Ireland making inflammatory statements all the while. Quite as stupid and just as unnecessary as Iraq.