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Thread #114665   Message #2448826
Posted By: Big Al Whittle
24-Sep-08 - 07:25 AM
Thread Name: BS: Very Important Talk by Daniel Ellsberg
Subject: RE: BS: Very Important Talk by Daniel Ellsburg
'We weren't being threatened by anyone when we went to war in Vietnam'

No but the Chinese subcontinent and the third world generally was being infiltrated by a very aggressive version of Marxism. I think it was a case of taking a stand somehwere. vietnam drew the short straw.

'And personally, if our own government becomes a fascist dictatorship, which it is well on its way toward becoming, I don't see how we are really any better off in the long run (as a country) than we would be if the fascists of Europe had won WWII.'

Take a look at Auschwitz, and repeat that. Ask virtually anybody, would they rather have lived in the 1950-70's in the Soviet Union or America. If you don't feel grateful and protective of what your political system has delivered thus far - well you should do.

The first imperative is to save your ass - take a look at those history plays. Anywhere can have a great constitution - most tyrannies have wonderful sounding ones. Not many places can keep the basic freedoms intact.