Guest whenisasongnotasong, "All lyrics for all songs have to be composed by someone, at sometime and then sung by someone for it to become a song. You now admit it is song but it's 'fabricated'. All songs are 'made up'-that's hw they come into existence! If it has lyrics, verses and is sung it is a song"

Yes, that's what I've been saying !!!
Nobody is arguing that a song now exists, but I tell you what: not one Rangers fan (or even the few Celtic fans I know) had ever heard of any "whole song" before this week.
Even now, checking this out, the evidence is so sparse as to be quite remarkable.

But I DO accept the evidence you have posted: it certainly would appear that (Australian) posters had a "whole song" version going four months ago.
Fair enough -- I am willing to accept the truth.
It would be nice to read somebody else on this thread also doing so.

However, the simple fact remains that ... the "whole song" has NOT been sung by Rangers fans at a match.
Four lines: "The Famine's over, Why Don't you go home?"

As you say, the song IS a dirge (as most of these so-called Oirish-related can be), but are the lyrics offensive ?

"From Ireland they came
Brought us nothing but trouble and shame" -- well if that applies equally to Rangers and Celtic fasn then it's fair enough.
If it is just being applied to IRA sympathisers, then it's equally fair enough.

"Now Athenry Mike was a thief" -- well, the Fields of Athenry confirms that with "For you stole Trevelyn's corn".

"And Large John he was fully briefed" -- referring to Jock Stein's knowledge of the Celtic Boys' Club child abuse, which was verified by no less than the captain of Celtic in a court of law.

"And that wee traitor from Castlemilk
Turned his back on his own" -- referring to Celtic's McGeady who chose to play for Eire rather than Scotland, making him unpopular with almost all Scottish footie fans.

"They've all their Papists in Rome
They have U2 and Bono" -- for the life of me I can't see how this could be construed as offensive, since it is factual.

"Now they raped and fondled their kids
That's what those perverts from the darkside did
And they swept it under the carpet" -- referring again to Scottish sport's worst child abuse scandal, carried out by Cairney & Torbett, who left Celtic, the latter did two years in jail for his crimes, and then linked back up with the club through his Trophy Centre.


So -- a "whole song" (that nobody had ever heard of until now, which you have to admit IS pretty strange ), BUT only four lines sung by Rangers fans at games.

Now, you could try and suggest that the four line chant is totally representative of the "whole song", but I put it to you that's a dangerous road to go down.


As for a huge gust of fresh air ... let's ask once more, what's worse?
People whose ancestors also suffered during the Great Famine singing a sarcastic chant, or
fans singing in support of a proscribed terrorist organisation that have killed children, fans who threw bananas onto the pitch at a black Rangers player and dressed up in monkey costumes to mock him, fans who pray for a Catholic Rangers player to die in his sleep with a bullet from the IRA, fans who mocked the Rangers American captain with aeroplane gestures after the 9/11 tragedy, fans who mocked the same disaster a year later by chanting all through the minute's silence, etc, etc.


You tell me : what is worse.

And will you condemn Denis Leary for his barbed comments about how come the Irish famine happened to an island and how come they couldn't fish ??

Or ... are you really saying that there's no place for humour in music?
Because a few other posters on here would take serious issue with that.