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Thread #114763   Message #2451540
Posted By: Donuel
27-Sep-08 - 09:51 AM
Thread Name: BS: The Debates
Subject: RE: BS: The Debates
It was mosty Theatre with actors upon a stage, yes?

Remarkably it was a tie when you remove factors such as the truth and ideology from the equation.

Touched upon by Amos, when McCain refers to dead US troops as dieing in vain, when and if a conflict does not end in unconditional surrender, it is a terrible thing to say and a worse thing to believe.

I pointed out this absurdity 6 years ago in a picture I made of a war memorial with the inscription "No one dies in vain as long as war is endless". In a war against terrorism there can never be an unconditional surender, there is no government to sign those terms as Japan did aboard a US battleship.
Fortunatly Obama pointed this out.

Barack however did not go for the jugular on veterans voting records or the economic suffering of real people.

Best moment for John (the expression of his sincere love for his fellow veterans)

Barack's best moment (You were Wrong...wrong...wrong)


it was not right for Barack to accuse John of not wanting to meet the Prime Misnister of Spain. John clearly confused the name of the Spainish official with Latin American countries. That was an artificial gotcha. And Barack erred on the side of statemanship than too many gotcha attempts. Obama protrayed respect while McCain portrayed elite egalitarian indignation.


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Something no one else may have noticed - BUT AT THE VERY END - when the candidates seperate to kiss their wives Obama broke a choreographed protocol. They both walked the 60 feet across the stage to shake hads with John and Cindy... OMG   McCain was livid afterward and was gesturing with bith hands at his manager for letting this Happen!

You see McCain made eye contact only once upon the initial handshake prior to te debate...after that he did not look at Barack even once.
Not during the debate and wierdly not even when they shook hands immediatly after the debate. When Mr&Mrs Obama strolled all the way over to the McCains, the theatre of Barack being the one to reach across was cinched while John was squirming to get away. Again when all four shook hands, McCain did not look at the Obamas.

Maybe you need a wide screen TV but McCain was really miffed at his female manager for letting this happen.

As theatre goes it was a small thing but emotionally albeit subliminally significant to a viewer.