With what I have read about what a rose could ostensibly be I think I could pass on roses from now on! I'll stick with preferring Gladioli (Symbolizing strength and moral integrity, gladioli also represent infatuation, with a bouquet conveying to a recipient that they pierce the giver's heart with passion).

I'll stay a maiden (not so) young and fair, I think, and keep away from Popeye ;-) I'm past my prime but will keep my garden fair (heaven only know what that could mean!).

I think it is in the film Armageddon where the Grandfather says "that is why God gave us children: so we can have roses in winter", so maybe even there we hear a point toward roses and children. It is far better than the alternatives! :-)

mp