There are quite a few veggies that can grow in shade, according to my organic guru. Herbs, Swiss chard and various sorts of peppers, he says (someone called and asked about growing plants indoors over the winter, with the assistance of fluorescent bulbs). I'd certainly want to give it a try.

Do you have someplace "non-traditional," like out by the front sidewalk, where there is more sun for the broccoli and tomatoes? I find that no one seems to even notice or care hat I grow vegetables in my front yard amongst the flowers and shrubs.

As for the rest of the argument, those two sour-pusses are not contributing anything useful, and they don't know any more than the rest of us, even if they like to say so.

SRS