Riginslinger-

I was struck by your comment above that Palin "...wasn't associated with an organization as subversive as ACORN." Clearly you did not follow up the link to the Salon. com report of Palin's active support for the Alaska Independence Party (AIP):

click here for report

Or maybe you weren't impressed with AIP's denouncement of the United States; their statements certainly rival anything that Rev. Wright has come up with. Palin evidently was not a card-carrying member of this party but she made presentations at their general meetings and worked for more than 5 years with its leadership; when elected Mayor of Wasilla Palin tried to appoint Steve Stoll, the leader of the AIP and a member of the John Birch Society, to take her former Town Council seat; the effort failed. When elected Governor, Palin continued to work with AIP leaders.

Maybe I don't understand what you mean by "subversive."

Charley Noble