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Thread #114996   Message #2462132
Posted By: mauvepink
10-Oct-08 - 10:46 AM
Thread Name: BS: Teacher/Pupil Sex
Subject: RE: BS: Teacher/Pupil Sex
"Also that the reason there was no age of consent for girl / girl sex was that Queen Victoria didn't believe that two girls would do such a thing?"...

but also the law considered that sex cannot take place without a penis being involved. Men looked at lesbian sex as aberrant and just needing the 'right man'. Sex could not take place without a penis thus male/male sex was just that while women (sapphos, fricatrices and tribades) have been associated with having a medical problem, cerebral anomoly, congential inverts, criminal, insane and allsorts. It goes way beyond Queen Victoria. Freud of course MADE it an illness as a perversion following his forebares back to ancient Greece. It scared men as it took them out of the sphere of control over women. But I digress ;-)

Could it be that the law as it stands on Teachers and pupils (and anyone in a position of authority over the children) is also there to protect the teachers too from later lawsuits, accusations of abuse, etc? Also, it could be levied that said teacher has given more favourable results in tests and work because they are having sex with said pupil. I think the system has to be seen to be above manipulation and coersion from all sides.

The idea of boys fantasising over a female teacher, does seem more acceptable to most if that teacher seduces the boy. What possible harm could be being done? The boy is lucky. But is he if the person was abusing trust? But generally that would be sex for him so a lucky boy he must be.

But girls have a tendency to get deeper emotional crushes on their male teachers that goes beyond just sex and into actual love (and I accept that some boys will love their female teachers too). It is a recipe made for disater if acted upon in the most instances. Everyone could maybe quote a success but most people know the potential is high for much emotional damage on all sides maybe.

And what of the boy falls in love with male teacher: Girl falls in love with female teacher (and vice versa) scenarios?

No. I think we need protection for all involved and the best way is to have a single rule on this occasion that takes the ambiguity out of it. After all the Teachers are supposed to be the adults and 'know better'. If their hearts get involved then woe betide but it has to be accepted as going with the territory of the position.

It must be very hard for many pupils and teachers to not get involved at some higher level so the state makes a line that is clear.

mp