The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #110424   Message #2468253
Posted By: WalkaboutsVerse
17-Oct-08 - 10:47 AM
Thread Name: England's National Musical-Instrument?
Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
"Asylum and immigration are not the same thing. From your responses above, what you want is severe restrictions on asylum and an end to immigration. Why be afraid to be transparent about this? Is it because you know it equates all too well with the ideologies of far-right parties, such as those quorted by Woody?" (Ruth)...on the contrary, I am transparent/frank and then you go and twist things/put words in my mouth. And how on earth can I be "right-wing" when I've criticised capitalism so often throughout my collection? But, yes, as I've also tried to clarify there, this is where some left-wing people get confused - they are against greed, like me, but end up supporting economic/capitalist immigration, unlike me.
And then - "WAV is as responsible as anyone for keeping these arguments alive."...so having been hammered for not answering Pip's questions, above, as I thought I'd covered those issues, now I'm guilty of participation in a thread as well!
To Snail - it's true that some here could not agree with me that snails have shells, although I, myself, always at least try to play each ball on it's merrits and DO keep listening to people.
Radish - "That's a 'Yes', then. England should be mono-cultural, nobody should come here except asylum seekers from a nearby country, and those who do come here should assimilate to 'English culture'."...I've said economic/capitalist (NOT ALL)immigration/emigration should stop, the world over, from now on...and I've also given examples of other kinds of immigration/emigration above. Can you begin to comprehend that I genuinely don't like well-heeled people from nations other than Spain, including mine, pricing young Spanish couples out of the property market?
"the imputation of hating brown-skinned people personally" and that IS false and defamatory and disgusting tactics! I have only questioned the act of immigration itself and never any particular race or culture. What I have done, is found my way on a shoe-string through about 40 countries getting on well enough with people. Then, you again confuse the questioning of immigration with racism, even though more and more people are beginning to understand the differnce these days.
(And, for what it's worth, I'll have to read and respond to the rest later, as I'd like to go through my repertoire on my English flute, as usual, before attending a folk club tonight...lyrics I find less forgettable.)