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Thread #115388   Message #2472205
Posted By: Richard Bridge
21-Oct-08 - 05:52 PM
Thread Name: Folk Club Manners
Subject: RE: Folk Club Manners
"now we have Dick Miles,what sort of a bloody introduction is that.
this MC was paid to be at that festival,whether he likes the performer or not,he is paid to present and introduce people properly,this involves at the very least,stating what the performer does [plays concertina sings traditional songs is over here on tour from Ireland etc etc]and convincing the audience that the person is good."

Introduction not good enough for the captain.

"Songs should be performed without any crutches.
if a performer forgets the words,they should keep cool, ad lib,and/or carry on to the next verse,that is what performing is all about"

Other performers not good enough for the captain.

"running workshops is good but running workshops successfully requires skill and diplomacy and tact"

Workshops not good enough for the captain.

"workshops should concentrate upon improving technique"

Other people's singing not good enough for he captain.

"when I started as a floor singer 1971,the competition was tough,nobody ever sang songs with words in front of them.
I can remember going out to the toilet to run through words ,to make sure I had it right,if you werent any good you didnt get a chance to sing the next week,if a performer forgot a word they carried on,we had to learn how to perform,as we were doing it,and that[ imo] is the only way.
I experienced all those things as a newbie performer,but I got up and did it,I practised a lot before I went on,if i played a wrong chord aor sang a wrong word [I let it go ,and made sure I got the next verse right"

The rest of us are not as good as teh captain.

""The objective, really for the singer is to create a situation where when he starts to sing he's no longer worried about technique, he's done all that" EVERYONE, PLEASE TAKE NOTE. "

The rest ofour techniques (is that what folk song singing is about?) are not as good as teh captain.


"Here are some facts,I have ben professional for 35 years, made 4 cds ,5 lps,one of which Martin Carthy played guitar,one of which A Concertina Compilation,featured John Kirkpatrick. neither of these two would associate with me on a recording if they did not rate me.
Dave Bryant regularly booked me at clubs he ran. Iwas gigging before Eliza"

Yes, no-one has as much respect as the captain


"please show what these conceited remarks were"

I think so. Remember, the recordings of your performances are out there on youtube. Are you really sure you are as good as you seem to say you are? If not, how do you justify looking down on so many?

I can't say I've found Jim Carrol's performances electronically preserved on the tube for posterity (yet) - so he might be as good as he seems here to assert that he is.