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Thread #110424   Message #2473610
Posted By: mandotim
23-Oct-08 - 08:13 AM
Thread Name: England's National Musical-Instrument?
Subject: RE: England's National Musical-Instrument?
WAV; you have been told authoritatively, repeatedly and with references that your definition of racism and the term 'racist' is unacceptably narrow in any sense, and does not meet any academically acceptable definition. We know that you love the world being multicultural, and that you have visited a number of countries; you just don't want the other cultures to influence the purity of your self-proclaimed 'own good English culture'. Correct? If so, you are seeking cultural apartheid, and this falls easily within the boundaries of a racist act, i.e. you deny access to your culture to those of a different culture, in that you insist they perform only their own culture. You therefore act and write in a racist way, and do not retract from that position when challenged, indeed you repeat it verbatim. The only logical conclusion to draw is that you are a committed and irretrievable racist. This is not some abstract argument, it's an academically sound, logical progression using your writings compared to accepted definitions. You are a racist, and a particularly unpleasant kind; one who believes he has a cause that needs defending. It is this kind of racism that characterises organisations like the BNP, the Verwoerts government in South Africa, the rule of Idi Amin in Uganda and the ethnic cleansing policies of Serbia in the Balkans.
Your chosen cause appears to be the cleansing of the folk music culture in this country to fit your self-generated idea of what English folk music should be. Once again, your definition has been challenged and utterly refuted, with chapter and verse being provided by some of the best and most authoritive voices in the field. This refutation renders your defence of the cause redundant, due to the false construct upon which it was based.
Finally; you attempt to set rules about how folk music should be performed, both vocally and instrumentally. I would respectfully suggest that this would carry greater weight if you were able to offer both lengthy experience of performing and some verifiable ability as a musician. Generally those who create rules in their field do so from a basis of a high level of skill, knowledge and experience, not to mention academic qualifications. While I accept you do have some qualifications, none of them relate directly to the field in which you seem determined to prescribe some fairly draconian limits to what can or cannot be played, and the methods by which permitted music should be performed. Can you explain your reasoning why the many professional musicians on this board should change their established performing practice to suit the ideas of someone who barely qualifies as an amateur?

Your normal approach when and if you reply to a post is to claim that the person posting is attacking you in some way; please don't pull that tactic this time; I am not attacking you as a person, I am attacking your published, repeated and self-defended ideas. In saying that you are racist; this isn't an attack, it is an attempt to show you that this is an inescapable conclusion reached by reading your work and applying accepted definitions of 'racist'. If you were prepared to modify your position in any way, then I and (I suspect) many others would be prepared to reconsider that conclusion, but so far you have not budged an inch.

Please read this post carefully, and attempt to reply without referring to your websites or repeating any of the redundant arguments you have applied so far (by which I mean 'all of them').
Tim