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Thread #115544   Message #2476469
Posted By: Dave the Gnome
26-Oct-08 - 10:33 AM
Thread Name: BS: Religious Canvassers
Subject: RE: BS: Religious Canvassers
No underhandedness at all Volgadon - Maybe I did misunderstand but the phrase "My religion is something that gives me immense joy and I know it can do so for others" says quite clearly that your religion will bring immense joy to 'others'. Not some others, not a few, but just 'others'. The phrase "Yes, I do know that what I believe will bring happiness, that's my conviction" contains no mention of anyone else but yourself. The difference between the two is that you first said it would bring joy to others and then narrowed it to yourself. I will give you the benefit of the doubt though and assume you were being unclear rather than underhanded. Can you clarify what you mean for the sake of us mortals not equiped with divine understanding? :-)

Secondly, I'm not telling you that you are the same as the Taliban or Torquemada. I am just saying that they share the same beliefs as you. Their approach is quite different to yours but what they did and still do, they do in the name of your religion whether you like it or not. You can either work actively to stop them doing so or you can get out of the club. I chose the latter. If you stay in the club and do nothing to stop the extemism then you are as good as condoning it. If you can show how you are active in stopping them then my hat is off to you.

Thirdly - If being a bigot means speaking out against something I believe to be wrong then, yes, I am a bigot. If being a bigot means I do not suffer fools gladly then again, yes, I am a bigot. If being a bigot means questioning religious beleiefs then, you guessed it, yes, I am a bigot. I have never come across your novel definition of a bigot though and am not quite sure why you say it. Like I said - I am not 'tarring you'. Just pointing out that these people do commit attrocities in the name of your beliefs and, as yet, you have not told us what you are doing about it.

Finaly, once again, If you say no I shouldn't keep pressing, that's a given. I have said no. You keep pressing. I will not comment on that but ask others to draw their own conclusion:-)

Cheers

Dave