I always tell them that if it wasn't for sinner like me, there would be no use for them. I'll talk for hours until they are frozen cold, wet,bored or re-converted. I have read that you should keep a folder with pictures of S&M practices and porn etc, tell them you are a sinner and they have come just in the nick of time to save you because you have devoloped unnatural interests in these (showing them the folder) and asking for their opinion as to how you may be saved after describing your feelings and lusts.I'm just going to get my folder started now............