Bryn, agreed. That's concerts, though. The other stuff is the people who are tying themselves in knots on this thread... what I mean is that when you pay your money to watch a rock band, there's no-one worrying about raffles and residents and floor singers and when to go for a piss and how to eat your crisps and who'll be insulted about when you go to the bar and what the organiser thinks and who's on the committee and the age of the audience and whether Bert's sung a song Bill likes to sing and ... need I go on?

It's just a bunch of people listening to some music. It's ok!