Well, Bobert ol' buddy, that's why I get LICENSED plumbers to do my plumbing work. I've had too much experience with septic tanks, stopped-up toilets and drains, and water that won't flow. The money you save at the beginning you pay out at the end. (And that includes both of my brothers -- wouldn't trust either one of them within fifty feet of a chain wrench or a faucet reseater.)