Good Grief! I can't keep up. Thanks for the breath of fresh air, Richard and thanks Captain Birdseye for the comments about MCing. I'm not sure that I'm very good at it but the only way to learn is by getting up and doing it. It's not something you can practice alone at home.

I don't think I have the energy to go through every point but since Jim seems to think I've insulted him, I'd better reply to that -

I can't speak for those who wish to see standards established at the clubs, but personally I find this (once again – from you on this thread) deeply insulting. Can you please tell us what has led you to this extraordinary conclusion?

All the talk about "jumping" on people, all the loathing poored out by some people for those not seen to come up to the standard. Your own attitude is, to say the least, unsympathetic. The woman you described sounds as if she had mental health problems. If she has ever been to Lewes, she must have radically changed her behaviour because I've never encountered anyone like that.