The East Side Gang are a pretty fishy bunch, no doubt about that.

Amos, you are forever saying that other people (those whom you disagree with about something) are "waving their arms around", "frothing at the mouth", and that sort of thing, when actually it's you. Yes, you are the one who is waving his arms around, so much so that I ventured an opinion on another thread that you may soon become the first person to become airborne merely through vigorous arm waving.

Stop engaging in projection, my good fellow. I am sitting here as calm and cool and unruffled as a cucumber when I say that there is no Chinga, there never has been any Chinga, and that you know less than nothing about Chongo's family or his antecedents.

You are akin to a bull bellowing in a barn in the middle of a hard-blowing chinook. A lot of hot air, sound and fury, signifying nothing.