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Thread #115725   Message #2482138
Posted By: GUEST,fredbert
01-Nov-08 - 11:20 PM
Thread Name: BS: Are homecoming parades for US troops sup
Subject: RE: BS: Are homecoming parades for US troops sup
So a simple apology is not enough then cluin, rather than get all sarcastic smart ass about this I put some facts past you and start the poop running.

No on second thoughts I will keep to what I wanted and resist.

But then considering I did apologise and asked respectfully to have the post removed I will give you what you want.

Who are the guys right in behind America and sometimes besides and before US troops, the good old British Army, can any American deny that the UK has turned its back on the US.

Now what people are obviously referring to is the pathetic action that SF has taken with regards to a parade in N.Ireland, which like it or not is still recognised by the US Gov.as British.

Remember Col Tim Collins, the guy who's speech is adorning the wall of the Whitehouse,ex. Boss of the Royal Irish Rangers, a British army Regiment made up of troops from all over Ireland and from every walk of life, infact they just lost a trooper who was American.

This Regiment has never in its history walked the streets of N.Ireland in any capacity.

A Regiment that has fought and died along side American troops in Iraq although now they are in Afghanistan do not enjoy the same homecoming that US troops do.

We have people who whinge about how the British done this that and the other in N.Ireland, mainly at the behest of SF these 30 or more yr old wounds are kept festering. Given the IRA has murdered more Catholics than the British Army ever did,( which I believe was total evil, Bloody Sunday was a disgrace no two ways about it, those guys should have be handed over to the people of Derry imho), look up the name of Jean McConville and try to justify her slaughter.

Jean McConville was a protestant who married a Catholic,this poor woman showed a bit of mercy towards a dying soldier, she was dragged out of her home,leaving her sons and daughter orphans. To this day SF maintain she was never murdered but executed.

There is hardly any one in the world who professes to know anything about Ireland does not know about the Enniskillen war memorial bombing when the IRA murdered 11 people civilians in 1987.

"Over the whole 38 years 763 soldiers would die in Ulster's Troubles"

Think about that number, it does not include the countless maimed crippled for life.

At what stage do people start to reconcile and try to come to terms with the past and reach a normal society.

In N.Ireland there are terrorists in Gov, Martin McGuiness is deputy leader, a man who in the past was part of the organisation that was responsible for the abducting of Jaen McConville and other "missing". He was part of the organisation that murdered more Catholics than any terrorist organisation in Ireland,and as mentioned in numbers of British Army deaths his organisation took their fair share of the 763 Army lives.

I could go on and on but I will make my point.

People have swallowed the crap set aside the killings for the greater good of peace,many who have lost loved one's have been on TV radio and print stating how we must forgive to move on.

Move on and forgiveness is the operative words, what makes some people who have lost loved ones in N.Ireland more important than others who has lost loved ones. NOTHING.

Both side have took chunks out off each other, the British Army paid their price too but SF seem to want blood and have their terrorist organisation's sins forgiven and not reciprocate, this is not how to achieve a lasting peace.

What is happening now is that SF is in America hosting discounted from $1000 to $500 plates to raise funds from their American friends.

Lets look at that friendship.

I will start at WW2 and look at the Irish Gov record and support for the Americans that SF run to for money.

Ireland remained neutral under that guise they surreptitiously aided and abetted the enemy of America, the Nazi's remember them, the good ole IRA spied and gave assistance to the very people who were killing their favorite friends troops.

After the war they refused Jews asylum turning away children in need yet assisted Nazi officers allowing them to escape justice and answer for their crimes.

When the first Gulf war began who do you think led the cry of protest when US troops passed through Ireland coming home and to the Gulf. The very people who go to America with the begging bowl.

I stood at two airports the Dublin and Shannon, you should have seen the faces of the kids walking down the glass tunnel with people jeering at them,your troops, American GI's being treated like scum but the same people jeering at them can put on another coat and put out the begging plate.

I stood along side other Americans some with tears in their eyes and others cheering their lads on. It is on a news reel somewhere.

SF has sided with all the enemies that America has and still hold out the hand, ask what their policy towards the PLO is and more importantly why.

The reason SF and the Irish Gov of the 40's sided with those who see/saw America as an enemy was simple, it hurt the British,their actions are totally egocentric, they did not care if Nazi's took over the free world. SF do not care if terrorists take over the free world as long as they get their objective. Paid for with money from their favourite fools Americans.

Given that we see SF is selfish and an unforgiven bunch who stir up hatred for their own ends.

The home coming parade of the RIR,comrades in arms of American troops were denied a full honours parade, SF organised a counter parade using the implied threat of civil unrest to try to get their way.

They succeeded a planed fly over was called off and other planed ceremonies were changed, the soldiers on the parade come from all over Ireland from all sections, many from the trouble spots of Belfast, Catholic and Protestant, their flag/colours bear the battle cry Faugh-A-Ballagh ,Clear The Way.

We have knocked seven colours of hen shit out of each other and the time has come to stop,for that forgiveness is the key and keeping a hierarchy of victim hood like SF does is not how to do it.

If the Unionist side can stomach ex terrorists who murdered 736 in gov then SF and nat/rep can stomach a parade of soldiers who fight alongside the US soldiers, the people they run to with the begging bowl.

Hope your satisfied!