Well, Bagpuss, that's my point exactly, I think. If people could express the values in their hearts without feeling the need to hoist the big "C" flag every time, it would set a lot easier with me. Because then you're living by example, and are demonstrably not proselytizing which completely turns me off. (In this thread, of course, it is relevant to identify your own religious belief system if you choose to do so.)

...and if you happen to come by your values via a personal relationship with God, God will know about that already, and I don't need to.

W-O