And so we trundle on ... Stig - good comments, and very charitable and tolerant. You (and Ralphie earlier) are quite right to say that there have been nuggets of information and wisdom contained within this thread... shame about having to dig and wade through the rest of it. I swore I was going to give up reading it, but I'm ashamed to say it really is car crash material, and spectating is exceedingly tempting. Moreover, it's like that sore itch that you can't ignore - you have to keep scratching it... and voila, when the enormity of yet another of WAV's postings causes the boiling over point to be met, the need and urge to make another post is felt!

It's quite obvious, and such a shame, that WAV is never going to accept that there may be some point in the musical advice he has frequently and normally very charitably and thoughtfully been given. Sadly I think Ralphie is mistaken in hoping that the thread will revert to a discussion of music. (And by the way, Ralphie, I love the idea of taking an instrument by mistake - makes it sound as though the tina fell into your hands and forced you to start playing it! A magnetic compulsion, or some such?)