"there are still people who should be fucking muzzled!" LOL! And players who should be forced to wear boxing gloves.


Anyway, perhaps the analogy used about restaurants applies to folk clubs - "people get the clubs they deserve".

Just to go back to the original subject of manners, there are a couple of things that IMO apply.

The first is turning up on time. OK I've got a bit of phobia about punctuality, myself, but if singers drift in throughout the evening, an MC who is anxious to accomodate everyone instead of telling them to F-off has to constantly rearrange the running order and this can be irriating for other singers.

The second is people joining in with their instruments. It's fine in singarounds but, no matter how accomplished the musician, it can sometimes be quite disconcerting for a singer who has developed and practiced a particular arrangement of their own.

The third is people who tune up whilst someone else is performing. Sometimes it's hard to resist saying, "shut the fuck up or you'll end up with that guitar/banjo/whatever as a enema".

Let's face it tolerance only stretches so far.