Dave, presumably the Snail has workshops at his club,to give performers the opportunity to improve.

I would have thought so, Dick. That is why I keep asking the question - What would be his couse of action if there was no improvement? But as I have had no response I do not know and will not make any assumptions about what action he would take.

I'm not sure about the 'scared of losing debating points bit'. Surely no-one would think that an internet discussion forum was that important would they? Particularly if their life was as full of real interest as Bryan's obviously is.

But let's not turn this into any sort of discussion on individual members and try to get it on track to be a guide as to how to get the audience, the artists and the floor singers to behave well at folk clubs:-)

Very good points, Nick. Maybe the Lewes Arms does not attract non-improvers because of the high standard. Maybe ours attracts one or two because, like you saw at the festival, we make sure they join in regardless! Maybe others attract more than their fair share because in that particular area there is more than a fair share of people who are not as sensitive to what is going on? I realy don't know but would be interested to find out. Looking forward to your next question.

Cheers

DeG

BTW - Did you ever imagine this thread would be knocking on the door of a 1000 posts!