DeG:

If we are to raise the bar and get clubs to a standard that everyone can enjoy can we provie an alternative for the 'non improvers'

I think that is the big question. I'm starting to think you can't be neutral towards people who want to perform despite not knowing the material, not being able to hold a tune etc - if you're not discouraging this attitude you're encouraging it. It sounds as if Bryan's club discourages it so effectively that he never sees it at all. I wonder what their secret is?