Ok, a big corporation that I do business with retires their PC's about every 3 years. Top of the line Dell Desk tops and a few notebooks. Each time they allow me to have a few for people who don't have money, have a kid going off to college and need a PC or just to help someone out. They do this as a gift to me. I in turn give them a certified letter that the data is destroyed. If you don't have money and your machine is whipped I can help you,   I only have a few but that is why I get them. They are 4 year old top notch dell desktops and I have a couple of notebooks same year. All are better that what 90% of normal household have. They will not have windows loaded since I need to secure shred the hard drives but if you are hurting and need a very good home computer drop me a PM line and I will see what I can do for you. Just pay for the shipping. This is for mudcat members only.

Dan