Couple of people have mentioned my local, Chorlton... one place where the policy is deffo 'give a spot to anyone who wants one'... Maybe that polcy works for you Snail, but down at Chorlton what it leads to is reading... lots and lots of reading. Someobdy did Plaisir damour... not long or complicated... they did it with a songbook. Somebody did Whirly whirl... nice song and great to hear it sung, but she sang the whole thign with her face in a songbook. And of course the night began the way it always does, with an old bloke who can't sing doing something out of the old Singing Together reperotoir... out of a songbook. It's frustrating... some of htese people could be much better if they tried harder and some of them could do us a favour by shuting up... but neither of those things is going to happen while there's this 'come one come all' metnality.