Oh, and Bryan - I know you are not talking to me but I would like to say thanks for the line floor singers are part of the audience; a significant part; on frequent occasions, the major part. It is what I was trying, and failing, to get at when I was prattling on about the three different kinds of audience we have. Off the top of my head I would break it down to

1. 10% The residents - Always of good quality
2. 40% The concert goers - Never perform
3. 50% The floorsingers of which I would estimate 55% are more than adequate, 40% are very good and 5% are well below par

I could be wrong but I think it is a fair-ish rule of thumb.

I think maybe it IS time to take this to another thread after all! Will someone else start it though so Bryan can add his views? :-D

Cheers

DeG