Every time I open this thread, I am reminded of the kid in class while I was in high school. The bullies, and those so low in self esteem that they had to point out others faults to feel good about themselves, would have a field day picking on the poor kid. As I grew older, I realized that in a sad way, that kid was getting what he craved also. Attention. I see a lot of bullies in these WAV threads, a lot of folks making themselves feel better by attacking an easy subject, and one person who revels in it. It will all make a fascinating case study one day when the inevitable researcher decides to study the fascinating interplays on the Mudcat. But some of you won't be very happy with what they find.