The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #116671   Message #2511078
Posted By: Bernard
09-Dec-08 - 04:41 PM
Thread Name: Who plays a Tenor Treble Concertina?
Subject: RE: Who plays a Tenor Treble Concertina?
Point 1: Okay, forgiven! ;o)

Point 2: Agreed.

Point 3. No, I disagree. You're inadvertently twisting the sense around. You are focussing entirely on the Bb - B part of the argument, and missing my point.

This probably came about because you were still thinking about your own post immediately above mine, and wrongly assumed I was talking about the same thing.

I said:'I tend to play in F most of the time because I used to play a Lachenal baritone which transposed - when you were playing in 'C' it was really playing in F... so when the owner wanted it back and I got a standard treble, I had to rethink! Fortunately adding the Bb in wasn't terribly difficult! I also tuned the low G# to F for that very reason.'
Play a simple tune in C (with no accidentals), then play the same tune starting one button lower on the same row. You will have to play Bb to keep to the tune, and the tune will be in F. The baritone played the same note patterns as the treble, but a fifth lower.

I was not saying that the Bb was the only note which was different (as your own post had said), merely that the tunes I was playing only required that I played a different button as I was only playing 'in C' but sounding 'in F'.

To make the swap to the treble, but still sing the songs 'in F', the adjustment to my playing was required. it would have made no sense at all to modify the instrument to my playing! Having the low G# as an F is commonplace - my other Edoephone came to me that way.


Point 4. I cannot answer in-depth questions about an instrument I do not have, and have only played once. You will have to take up your questions with the owner. I had promised to speak to Steve about the instrument, and have passed on what he said. I do not wish to discuss it further! ;o)