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Thread #116775   Message #2512538
Posted By: GUEST,Working Radish
11-Dec-08 - 08:57 AM
Thread Name: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
Tom: you're right that we don't own the word 'folk', but I think it's important that people who would like a narrower definition keep saying so; there's enough pressure in the other direction, after all. I thought of the 'art' analogy myself; we seem to be getting into a position where it's actually impossible to say that an entry to a folk award or an act on a festival stage isn't folk - because it's acceptance by a folk promoter that defines something as folk. Hence my original comment after listening to that fateful dreaded MySpace page - "if it's possible to say "this isn't folk", then this isn't folk".

Ruth: you don't necessarily expect the same things - in skill, in aesthetics, in polish - from an 18 year old that you would from a 28 year old, or a 48 year old or a 68 year old.

This is true, of course, but I don't think anyone's called M & J a pair of rough-edged incompetent amateurs. Yes, some people obviously think their music isn't very good, but the criticism's not been that intense. I think far more of the heat in this thread has come from people leaping to M & J's defence than from their critics, and an awful lot of the heat has been generated by the assertion that their music isn't folk - which isn't even a criticism (of them; it is a criticism of the YFA). I'm really puzzled about why this should be, and I wonder if some of us are refighting old battles. Possibly including myself.