It wasn't Bald Eagle used the expression "send a shiver up my spine", it was me: "Expressions like "believing" in yourself" or or "liking yourself" send a shiver up my back - there are too many real bastards around who believe in themselves and like themselves only too much." And most of those evil bastards are men, the power structures of society being the way they are.

And since "oppressed minority" was Germaine Greer's phrase, as quoted by moonchild in her post opening this thread, it was odd to see Peter getting stomped for picking it up. Of course women aren't a minority, but women over 50 are. As are people over 50 in general.

I still can't see how liking yourself or believing in yourself adds up to that much. What matters is to be in the right, and to believe you are in the right, and to be confident that you can be strong enough to do what needs doing. If you worry about liking yourself, either you're going to try to be likeable when that may not be relevant, or you'll learn to like all those qualities in yourself that aren't there to be liked, like the evil bastards I talked about.

And I have a bad hair day most days...(look at the picture...Or better, don't.)