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Thread #116987   Message #2519347
Posted By: Teribus
18-Dec-08 - 06:55 PM
Thread Name: BS: Bush Dodges Shoe In Iraq....
Subject: RE: BS: Bush Dodges Shoe In Iraq....
A couple of things:

First we have:

"Come on Teribus, you've been around just as long as me I bet; and you surely understand that it is perception which is important."

Em, No Akenaton, perception is not in the least important, perception as we have seen can be engineered to produce whatever result a person desires. Perception Akenaton, is not truth, you may bow to the god of perception as and when it suits you. I will always prefer truth that stands up to critical analysis.

Next we have:

"as per what Amos was saying' things changed on the ground in Iraq between 1998 and order to invade..."

I've listed them Bobert and none of you have contradicted that list of changes that I posted, or added to them. Now none of those changes embarass my case, they sure as hell embarass yours.

And finally we have:

"One of the most important fact that T conviently loves to ignore is the fact that in January of 2003, there was a full contingency of weapons ispectors in Iraq and that in his speech before the UN, Hnas Bliz said that the Iraqis were cooperating fully in letting the inspect wherever they wanted..."

Part one of this is the denial by Bobert, Amos, et al, that the ONLY reason that UNMOVIC Inspectors were invited back into Iraq was because of the pressure applied by George W. Bush. Now come on guys just for once in your lives be honest and give credit where credit is due. The UN and Bill Clinton had been trying for years to get the UNSCOM Inspectors back into Iraq and both had failed, GWB suceeded by parking the best part of 220,000 troops on Saddam's borders.

The second part of Bobert's statement is a blatant, down right lie, and Bobert, assuming that he can read, is fully aware of that. Anybody doubting that only has to read the Reports made to the United Nations Security Council by Dr. Hans Blix to determine that the Iraqis were not providing full, pro-active co-operation to the UNMOVIC Inspection teams as was required by UN Security Council Resolution 1441 from DAY ONE - That is a simple matter of record if anybody can be bothered to read it - Bobert isn't bothered to read it, basically because Bobert prefers lies to truth.