It seems I am the only one to make editorial comment on this thread so forgive me if by doing so I make a mistake of ettiquette.

I think of the 30% who consistently need to remain willfully ignorant and unwilling to be open minded enough to accept a certain universality of most religious messages, the primary message being do unto to others as you would wish they would do unto you. The staunch believers have a strong need to be right and seem to stand against something more than they stand for something. No logical argument will change their need to exclude, harm or worst of all, kill those they have chosen as their opposition.
Perhaps pharmaceuticals might one day provide a treatment for that kind of linier psychoses.


Christ was not a Christian. Furthermore he would have most likely felt that being called a Christian would be as repugnant, egotistical and antithetical to his rebellion against hate and corrupt Imperialism as Martin Luther king would feel being called a Kingian.

PS I hereby change the English word Atheist to "ATHEIAN" - purely for aesthetic reasons. ;<}
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In the news:

Republican Congressman Baynor is advertising in classified ads to have any accredited economists who will call for continued deregulation of the financial sector and condemn any further bail out legislation and stimulus plans, to contact him at once.
(this might be a good time to make a Trojan Horse and contact him at once, if you get my meaning wink wink - yaknowwhatimean)


The application to become a holding bank which allows them to get bail out funds, has 6 questions and is 2 pages long.
Credit card companies and GMAC are now holdng banks getting bailed out.