"you'll find Hamas have moderated their position somewhat from their original 'charter' and have accepted this fact."


I have not found this to be so. i refer to the Hamas Charter, and nothing said by HAMAS has ever repudiated it. FATAH has changed it's view: Note there is no attack on or from the West Bank, under PLO control.

As for the territory, it all depends on what year you want to define borders: If you say pre-1967 war, I will ask both Why not give Israel the results of the war, and Why not use the 1923 borders that were determined when the Arab Moslim Homeland of Trandsjordan was formed. All the other nations in the region were defined then: Why should Israel be any different?

I have NO desire to kill anyone- but I have little sympathy for those who try to kill civilians deliberately, and then complain when their effort to hide their attacks behind their own civilian population does not give them the freedom to kill that they desire.