Great minds think alike, I had the same thought after I read Max's post. That's a great move for him, but the addiction of regular contact is strong. :) There is a Mudcat gardeners group that I can post a link from also, back to a new group. That one is open to the public to read, I think, but if you follow links you hit the protocol that asks you to join to read a new group content.

http://groups.google.com/group/mudcat-gardeners

SRS