It's not a red herring when it's your only source of income, John. Most people know what they earn per year, and can tell you how many hours they do to earn it. If I divide my annual income by the number of hours I spend doing the things I need to do to ensure good quality performances and CDs (and, yes, you do normally include 'captive down time' in that calculation) I get a figure below the minimum wage. If I knew I'd sell more than twice the number of CDs at £5 that's what I'd charge. But at the moment that's not the case. T