Well guest ifor, those Israeli Arabs, should thank their lucky stars that they did not exercise dissention in Gaza, the punishments inflicted there would have seen them thrown from the tops of high-rise buildings, or I suppose crucified if they were deemed to be "weakening the spirit of the people". By the bye they have not been banned there have been moves to bar them and the result of that appeal will not be known until Friday.

Usual emotive crap from Akenaton, historically a keeper of slaves, were they Jewish slaves? I must look that up. Ake if you are fighting a battle you fight it to win, there are no other considerations. I found it rather cynical the other night listening to a Prince of the Royal House of Saud complaining bitterly that the Israelis weren't fighting "by the rules" as they ought to - No mention at all of any obligation on the part of Hamas or the other Jihadist Groups having to do the same of course.

Now, if Israel and the IDF were indeed acting as Akenaton and others on this forum have suggested with regard to civilians, then by now there wouldn't be anybody alive in Gaza at all, the percentage of "civilians" killed still however amounts to around 0.03% of the population. Gaza has not been "flattened", there has been no "blanket bombing". Oh Akenaton there never was any confirmation of those thousands of South Ossetians killed by the Georgians was there?

And now we have a new "BOBERT FACT" used by Bobert to make his mind up about something:

"With every passing day I am less and less "sure" that Israel has a right to exist...

I mean, the Bush administration's own refusal to give Israel more bunker buster bombs, which BTW I believe are nuclear, really turned my thinking..."

There is no such thing Bobert as a "nuclear bunker busting bomb", the US did trials on the casings for them and could not get them to work, all a simple matter of record Bobert, it was all explained to Congress, who have to sign off on the US military budget and how it is spent. But I know that you will not look into that and "YOUR" nuclear bunker buster bomb will join the ranks of "the heads on sticks" and the "3000 Patriot missiles per day". Doesn't help your argument at all when it is so clearly based on lies and myth.

The bunker busters if supplied would in fact reduce the likely-hood of "civilian" casualties if used against deep bunkers and would definitely be useful in the destruction of the supply tunnels, through which Hamas chose to smuggle arms instead of food or medical supplies. Now who was it needed which most and what did the "elected government" of the Palestinians in Gaza deliver??