ah but what if you dont read dots like me, i want to learn the recorder but hell like everything else if you dont read dot you are stuffed.

Jacob van Eyck was a blind recorder player in 17th century Holland. Not being able to read music didn't stop him writing quite a lot of it.

I learn tunes both by ear and off sheet music. It doesn't take long to learn to read it and it's a useful thing to know.