Joe; I didn't see the thread in question but I've noticed since I've been a guest and a member of Mudcat that when you do have to censor something it's done in a leavel headed and fair manner and is usually the last extremity. It would be great if everybody censored themselves but that isn't going to happen with some folks. To our non-English speaking friends and those who speak English as a second (Or third)language Please ignor the rude, ignorant dipsticks who feel that bashing others is a "Mature" thing to to. Be assured they are in the smallest of minorities here at Mudcat. Best to all, Neil