jed said, I believe, "active listener" and that I can relate to. In the van alone, I play what I want and sing along/learn....whatever. But I can't take music just playing away as a background. Karen likes it....I hate it. So we swsap off as we travel together. As to what's on the radio, I can't take it and I never could. Just something in that "hey boys and girls" bullshit that kills me. Our teens have all been nuts for the radio and I have been known to "disable" their stuff when they aren't looking. I miraculously fix it later. On severasl occasions in the van I have lost it completely to the point of stopping, ripping the fuse out and throwing it into a field.

Oddly enough, I can't go to sleep to either music (actve listener) or silence (start thinking about things) and have gone to sleep to the TV for years.....when I sleep that is. I can go to sleep listening to Carlen, Pryor, Miller, etc., but I know the routines by heart.

Spaw