I'm not suggesting we don't discuss this - just that it makes a lot more sense to talk about stuff we know - our own experiences, and the beliefs we have arrived at about what is the right thing to do in this kind of situation, rather than speculating about a particular incident about which we have very limited knowledge.

For example I find the idea that we should ask permission before praying for someone really strange - I don't mean praying with them or praying over them, just remembering them in our prayers. But it sounds as if some people do think that. It seems clear that there are a nunber of different ideas about what "prayer" is. Where people use the same word but mean something different it gives rise to misunderstandings as we argue past each other, because we don't take those different meanings into account.