Well kat, you would appear to have a very low opinion of your own sex, if you think that they all do things like that just to please men.

You know that is not what I mean, John. I have a low opinion of the way our society is still *telling women, through advertising, Barbie dolls, etc. they must be a certain way to please men and a lot of women, esp. young women, believe it unless there is someone in their lives who has taught them otherwise.

Agree with harpgirl, Joe. Please close this thread.