Wrong George!.....Leaving hatred out of it, this was a chance to change a system that we both despise, Mr Obama is a creature of the system as much as Mr Bush was. A kinder face perhaps, but the system's man for sure.

You were also wrong to advise Doug to put his "objectivity" down the pan, even if it was tongue in cheek.

When we start putting objectivity down the pan like so many "liberals" do, then we're really fucked!