Well, I suppose you could argue that it is amazing that nature -- natural selection -- ended up producing consciousness (Hans Jonas, the eminent German philosopher argued this way). I personally think that nature and natural selection are much weirder than we think -- for example, scientists are currently enthralled with horizontal selection (a lot of species seem to hybridize in ways that really, really complicate the purity of standard selection).   We know almost nothing about nature when you really study it.

Beauty is odd -- hard to think of it as completely delusional -- and then there is mathematics. Mathematics is just so strange. That is even beforfe we get into quantum physics.

The two simplest things in the universe are completely inexplicable: time and space.

So any discussion is really presumptuous.....

yours ever,

Peter T.