Big Mick, your last post makes absolutely no sense at all.

Sugarfoot Jack/Strindsinger/ Frank Hamiltom or whoever it has got absolutely fuck all to do with mining in Columbia or South Africa and how they treat their miners. The choice for British industry was quite stark and simple you either pay £250 per ton for British coal or you pay £8 per ton for Australian coal. As someone buying in raw materials I'd love to hear your arguements for paying 30 times what you have to to pay for the same commodity and yet make any atempt to stay competitive in the world market.

I know I am mentioning two words there that "socialists" absolutely dread "competition" and "market", because both imply that you actually have to excell and win in both, whereas they delight in mediocrity.