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Thread #118887   Message #2574722
Posted By: theleveller
24-Feb-09 - 11:20 AM
Thread Name: BS: The middle classes are revolting
Subject: RE: BS: The middle classes are revolting
"Please note leveler:
"On George III's accession on 25 October 1760 he surrendered 'Crown lands' held in England, Wales and Scotland to the state in return for an annual 'civil list' payment."

If that ANNUAL 'civil list' payment is not paid to the King or Queen, because they have been replaced by a President, then the contract made on the 25th October 1760 is broken and Crown Lands revert to their rightful owners."

Actually, it was Sir Michael Peart, Charles's private secretary's suggestion that the Windsors receive an income from the Crown Estates rather than the Civil List that prompted the response above, from royal legal experts. I did not suggest that the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall were part of the Crown Estates. This does not alter the basic and incontrovertible fact that the Crown Estates have awlays and still do belong to the state - so there is no question or their 'reverting' to the crown as they were never, in over 1000 years, the property of the crown.

Back to the relevance to my original post - let's not forget that the English Civil War and the establishment of the Commonwealth were the result of a dispute between the middle classes of the time and the monarchy. Inevitably, as Sugarfoot Jack intimates, the majority of 'ordinary' or landless people were betrayed by self-interest.